tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post8182536855116848559..comments2024-02-29T11:45:01.870+01:00Comments on UK Armed Forces Commentary: The 40 mm CTA gun becomes an AA pieceGabrielehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01623558391676151582noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post-70042613906094976372017-12-04T04:06:19.824+01:002017-12-04T04:06:19.824+01:00Your Supacat ISTAR link is broke. Try this one: h...Your Supacat ISTAR link is broke. Try this one: https://supacat.com/newsevents/news/supacat-demonstrates-jackal-istar/?hilite=%22istar%22Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post-18584573064628848032013-01-11T16:04:28.302+01:002013-01-11T16:04:28.302+01:00Regarding FRES production, the Ministry of Defence...Regarding FRES production, the Ministry of Defence has placed NO contractual obligations on General Dynamics UK (GDUK) to manufacture the Scout Specialist Vehicles (Scout SV) platforms in the UK. GDUK has, however, indicated that a significant proportion of the activity may be conducted in the UK.<br /><br />In addition, the contract allows for the transfer of the assembly integration and test work on the platforms from off-shore facilities, to the Defence Support Group in the UK. A value for money decision on whether to transfer this work will be taken later in the programme, closer to production. An enabling arrangement for industrial participation has also been put in place with General Dynamics, that will see work being carried out in the UK, or assistance being provided to UK exporters to Spain (assembly of ASCOD, the base vehicle for Scout SV is currently conducted in Spain)<br /><br />This is what Peter Luff disclosed in 2011 in a written answer. When the FRES SV will enter manufacture phase, we'll see what actually gets produced in the uk and what not, but i'm not too optimist. <br /><br />FRES SV is in the Core Budget in the 10 years program. The government is committed to it. See my latest post on the NAO Major Projects Report 2012 for more info. <br /><br />currently being demonstrated are<br /><br />SCOUT<br />APC<br />Repair<br />Recovery <br /><br />variants. <br />Planned variants in Block 2 include Ambulance, Command Post, Engineer recce and Joint Fires Support vehicle. <br /><br />As for 2-3000 vehicles, no way in hell. It'll be a few hundreds. Gabrielehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01623558391676151582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post-55193816747103322013-01-10T15:41:32.113+01:002013-01-10T15:41:32.113+01:00Thank-you for your swift and in depth reply gaby! ...Thank-you for your swift and in depth reply gaby! I'm glad to hear that warrior and chally are still going to be supported for a few decades to come, even though their in limited numbers.<br /><br />I asked the question regarding manufacturing as I read a thread stating that 80% of manufacturing will take place in the UK with 70% of the supply chain here and I think the government really needs to ensure that this is the case and if possible get 100% of manufacturing over here as in peace time the economic side of it is far more important.<br /><br />So we won't know much more until around 2015 then and the next sdsr? How much commitment do the government have to the programme? Is it even in the ten year planning round?<br /><br />In terms of variants then, will we see a command and liaison vehicle, a repair and recovery vehicle, an apc time vehicle (to replace bulldog), an ambulance varient, possibly a light tank variant (air transportable, similar to us stryker) and an aa varient? And the estimate is 2-3000 of these vehicles right?<br /><br />Oh and in 2010 bae tried to reverse the decision by saying it would move production from Sweden to Newcastle, which would of been ideal, and could have saved our tank industry, shame really.<br /><br />Once again thanks for your time, I'm eagerly awaiting your next post!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post-39079367352509620022013-01-10T09:19:28.860+01:002013-01-10T09:19:28.860+01:00Challenger and Warrior are far from extint. The Wa...Challenger and Warrior are far from extint. The Warrior is undergoing a very ambitious upgrade which will make it very possibly the best IFV in the world, and keep it going until 2040. There is also the possibility that a number of Warrior vehicles left "jobless" following reductions to the number of armoured infantry battalions will be converted into support vehicles, possibly including mortar carrier, to help replacing the ancient FV430 series. <br /><br />The Challenger is going to be in service just as long, and by 2017 the go ahead should be given to its own upgrade program, currently in early Assessment Phase. <br /><br />There's a risk that FRES SV will largely be manufactured abroad, unfortunately, but a final decision might well yet have to come. <br /><br />CV90 is not produced in Newcastle, but in Sweden. <br /><br />As for ASCOD SV, it is a vastly improved vehicle compared to the baseline ASCOD. <br /><br />As for a light gun, there is the possibility to make one on FRES SV hull, and there's some interest, but it's early to say if and when it'll actually happen. Gabrielehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01623558391676151582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post-76929218729630784812013-01-10T01:28:32.495+01:002013-01-10T01:28:32.495+01:00Sorry for bringing up an old thread but I was look...Sorry for bringing up an old thread but I was looking over the fres programme as it seems that these are the only armoured vehicles the UK are going to procure for at least the next 30 years. <br /><br />A few questions, where will this vehicle be manufactured? I'm hoping its the UK because the skills based and economic based side of any military procurement is far more vital to the UK at the minute than any fleet of armoured vehicles! We need the jobs and skills and the export potential is one of the reasons the mod selected it!<br /><br />I would of still have chosen the cv90 simply because its an incredibly mature, practical and very advanced vehicle with the benefits of being made at Newcastle aswell.<br /><br />Secondly, how different is the fres vehicle to the original ascod as there's not a lot of up to date info regarding the project?<br /><br />And finally, with chally and warrior basically extinct, with little support for challys gun and ammo, are the mod looking at a light tank variant like the cv90 120 and do you see the UK adopting an aa version?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post-75324689989647337872012-06-13T15:23:26.130+02:002012-06-13T15:23:26.130+02:00Re: i'm not really sure that it would be cheap...Re: i'm not really sure that it would be cheaper, nor i'm i that convinced it would be more effective<br /><br />See the penultimate page of the (brochureware crossed out) link.<br /><br />Re: i did not heard of any progress on it in quite some time<br /><br />Yes that was in 2006 and there is nothing I can find open source more recent, so may be on the shelf, though it seemed workable then. Even better of course in 57mm or 75mm.Anthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07384593323102710174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post-67969885832607483282012-06-13T00:53:37.189+02:002012-06-13T00:53:37.189+02:00I knew of the guided projectile option, but i'...I knew of the guided projectile option, but i'm not really sure that it would be cheaper, nor i'm i that convinced it would be more effective. <br />Lastly, i did not heard of any progress on it in quite some time: the doubt is that it might have been abandoned altogether.Gabrielehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01623558391676151582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post-57230785468369559972012-06-12T21:59:55.731+02:002012-06-12T21:59:55.731+02:00Thank you Gabs
Re: 40mm CTA
There may also be the...Thank you Gabs<br /><br />Re: 40mm CTA<br />There may also be the possibility of a Case Telescoped Guided Projectile (CTGP) round.<br />I believe this would be based on the starstreak projectile's technology, in other words laser guided.<br /><br />The advantages would be:<br />1) vs Tungsten Pellet Airburst<br />a) Higher probability of a hit (pHit) per shell, and therefore greater stored kills per turreted magazine.<br />b) Greater effect against harder targets (eg: missiles and bombs rather than drones)<br />2) vs Starstreak/LMM<br />cheaper per kill.<br />In truth these three methods would probably be complementary.<br /> <br />http://www.aaafasso.fr/DOSSIERSAAAF/ACTES_COLLOQ.LIBRES/ActColloq.06/MissDef.06.NonCompress/papers/35_23_27.swfAnthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07384593323102710174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post-60663198171227496642012-06-12T18:16:42.153+02:002012-06-12T18:16:42.153+02:00Navalization of the 40mm CTA has been on the cards...Navalization of the 40mm CTA has been on the cards at the MOD research branch at least since 2010, but probably as a future replacement for the MK44 30 mm gun on the remote mounts. <br />I guess a Phalanx replacement is technically feasible, but will undoubtely be expensive and, as you probably know, Phalanx is non deck-penetrating. Can the RAPIDFire be given some kind of non-penetrating mount? And with which funds? <br />I wouldn't hold my breath! <br /><br />Saying that Jackal sucks is a more than a fair bit cruel. It does not seem to be the way the vehicle is considered, also keeping in mind that it's been chosen by the Australian SAS as well, and rather recently. <br /><br />Foxhound will likely be better, but: <br /><br />- We don't know if and when there will be enough money to replace the many vehicles that Foxhound could and should indeed replace. <br /><br />- Its awesomeness is only a promise as of now, and just a part of it has been shown by trials in the UK. Can we wait a little bit and see how it actually fares in the battle zone, before we assume it is the solution to all our problems? I think <br /><br />- Considering the first point i made, if the army can bring the Jackal back from Stan and put it into core budget and replace the older and far less protected Land Rover WMIKs and EWMIKS, and also create the recce squadrons needed, it is already a very, very, very good development. <br />And a good use of a lot of money already expended and of a lot of experience gained in these years.Gabrielehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01623558391676151582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post-72806676997551766802012-06-12T18:08:28.410+02:002012-06-12T18:08:28.410+02:00That Thales RAPIDFire has the capability to replac...That Thales RAPIDFire has the capability to replace Phalanx as a CIWS for RN - giving a single gun and ammo commonality.<br /><br />Jackal sucks - in the day of IED and asymmetric mine threats you can't have a vehicle which sits the crew over the axle !<br /><br />It should be replaced by Ocelot WMIK - but as per usual, I doubt we would have the cash :-(JedPChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06090008973629372385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-442909239199162925.post-43796042500306034982012-06-12T14:16:52.405+02:002012-06-12T14:16:52.405+02:00Eurosatory has a distinct "downturn" fee...Eurosatory has a distinct "downturn" feel to it this year, lots of private venture stuff that is not very imaginative and relies on a lot of rebadging, the Thales AD system being the best example.<br /><br />The FRES-SV news is depressing, they finally scoped a vehicle programme that was running to schedule and budget and now it is being pushed back. The sad thing is that by 2017 the entire project staff will have rolled over and some new bunch of idiots will arrive who will probably cancel the programme and replace it with some new wonder hybrid powered plastic tank thus starting the cycle of life again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com